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- I know sunsite is supposed to have stuff, but I can never get in there, or
- it's really slow.
-
- Anyone here plan on setting up a WWW site for WINSOCK stuff?
-
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- I can't wait until Al Gore shows us his INFORMATION SUPER TOLLWAY
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Mon Mar 28 01:08:47 1994
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- Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 01:08:47 GMT
- From: mdezeeuw@knoware.nl (Martin de Zeeuw)
- Message-Id: <mdezeeuw.2.0014261D@knoware.nl>
- Organization: Stichting Knoware
- Sender: ses
- Subject: Telnet Using Kermit protocol
-
- I am looking for a Telnet application for Windows (free- or shareware) which
- has the capability of using the Kermit protocol.
- Several EPA BBS have been connected to Internet but can only be accessed via
- Telnet. In order to download variuos executable files I need a Telnet
- (Winsock-version) with Kermit protocol facilities.
-
- Anyone any suggestions?
-
-
- Martin de Zeeuw (mdezeeuw@knoware.nl)
- Alphen a.d. Rijn
- the Netherlands
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Sat Mar 26 17:57:15 1994
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- Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 17:57:15 GMT
- From: dick@bart.starnet.com (Dick Montgomery)
- Message-Id: <1994Mar26.175715.15467@starnet.com>
- Organization: StarNet Communications Corp.
- Sender: ses
- References: <Cn7psG.E7F@bbc.co.uk>, <holck.764619231@student>
- Subject: Re: Xwindows for pc?
-
- If you are having trouble getting the X-Win demo working, contact:
-
- support@starnet.com
-
- We can help.
- Thanks,
- Dick Montgomery
- StarNet Communications
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Sun Mar 27 23:02:06 1994
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- Date: 27 Mar 1994 23:02:06 GMT
- From: ahrens26@wharton.upenn.edu (Richard L. Ahrens)
- Message-Id: <ahrens26.48.0@wharton.upenn.edu>
- Organization: University of Pennsylvania
- Sender: ses
- Subject: VB3 with Winsock question
-
- I am writing an application in Visual Basic using Bryan Syme's VBWSK.VBX
- custom control. Is it possible to have my program recognize other instances
- of the same program running on the same domain (in this case upenn.edu)? I
- am using port #2001 (from my favorite sci-fi movie :-) ).
-
- If this is not possible using VBWSK.VBX, is it possible with Winsock at all?
-
- - Rich
-
- ==============================================================================
- Richard L. Ahrens ahrens26@wharton.upenn.edu
- Wharton School of Business University of Pennsylvania
- Finance/Management '96
- "Beauty plus brains always equals a constant." - Unknown
- ==============================================================================
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Mon Mar 28 00:49:28 1994
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- Date: 28 Mar 1994 00:49:28 GMT
- From: nirad@ceu.uq.oz.au (Nirad Sharma)
- Message-Id: <2n59io$fbs@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au>
- Organization: Continuing Education Unit, The University of Queensland
- Sender: ses
- Subject: SMC8013EPCs, pc/nfs5.0, winsock question
-
- Hi,
-
- I've configured some SMC Elites that are recognised as WD8013EPCs in some 486s
- here running PC/NFS5.0 accessing the SMCs using the SMC8000.DOS NDIS drivers.
- I've noticed bursty performance on telnet sessions (pc/nfs's and jsb's
- multiview desktop) - a third of the screen fills, delay, another third, etc.
- I suspect that the problem is somewhere between winsock and pc/nfs and/or the
- network drivers.
-
- (Incidentally, this occurs when connecting to different hosts but certainly
- a sparcstation elc running sunos4.1.2)
-
- Has anyone experienced this and, if so, what parameters did they tune and
- where ?
-
- Much thanks in advance,
- --
- Nirad Sharma (nirad@ceu.uq.oz.au) Phone : (+61 7) 365 7575
- Continuing Education Unit Fax : (+61 7) 365 7099
- The University of Queensland. QLD 4072. AUSTRALIA
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Mon Mar 28 01:04:36 1994
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- To: winsock@sunsite.unc.edu
- Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 01:04:36 GMT
- From: perlman@sci-ed.fit.edu (Marshal Perlman [ARCS])
- Message-Id: <CnCoBp.LA8@zeno.fit.edu>
- Organization: Florida Institute of Technology
- Sender: ses
- Subject: TRUMPET WINSOCK -- HOW TO SPEED IT UP
-
- I am using ETHERPPP + WINPKT + TUMPET WINSOCK and regardless of what I've
- been told, setting MaxRWIN to 32768 SPEEDS IT UP A LOT...
-
- I get much better throughput. End of story.
- --
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- I can't wait until Al Gore shows us his INFORMATION SUPER TOLLWAY
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Mon Mar 28 02:58:01 1994
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- for winsock@sunsite.unc.edu (winsock@sunsite.unc.edu)
- To: winsock@sunsite.unc.edu
- Date: 28 Mar 1994 02:58:01 GMT
- From: skelley@teak.ee.vt.edu (Sean Kelley)
- Message-Id: <SKELLEY.94Mar27215801@teak.ee.vt.edu>
- Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
- Sender: ses
- References: <CnConE.LDM@zeno.fit.edu>
- Subject: Re: WWW SITE FOR WINSOCK STUFF
-
- You could try:
- gopher://gopher.bev.net:70
- in the following directory:
- software/Windows
-
- This is the gopher for the Blacksburg Electronic Village. Sean.
- --
- Sean M. Kelley [skelley@birch.ee.vt.edu]
- "Origami: a creative approach to paperwork"
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Sun Mar 27 23:55:09 1994
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- To: winsock@sunsite.unc.edu
- Date: 27 Mar 1994 23:55:09 GMT
- From: joe@bga.com (joe)
- Message-Id: <2n56ct$s2u@giga.bga.com>
- Organization: Realtime Communications
- Sender: ses
- Subject: Trumpet news: unsolved problem, limited newsgroups
-
-
-
- I have seen this problem referred to in this group several times. No matter what I do, Trumpet news
- cannot (see) all the available newsgroups on the news server. I have deleted newsrc and started over
- as someone suggested still, only about 3100 of the 5200 groups on the server are available for subscription
- Manually entering a group such as "rec.pets.dogs" causes it to search a loooong time, finally finding no
- articles. Why can't it find groups that winvn can?
-
-
- Thanks in advance.
-
-
-
-
- ____________________________________________________________________________
- | Joe Mizera
- Insert witty tagline here | joe@bga.com
- | Austin Stereo & PC service
- | (512-451-0408)
-
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Mon Mar 28 15:57:52 1994
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- To: winsock@sunsite.unc.edu
- Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:57:52 GMT
- From: jvg@jvg.scs.co.in (Prasad J.V.G)
- Message-Id: <jvg.12.2D96FE80@jvg.scs.co.in>
- Organization: Sriven Computer Solutions Pvt Ltd.
- Sender: ses
- References: <2ml9j2$ahu@thor.cs.umass.edu>, <Cn687F.KKo@world.std.com>
- Subject: Re: How Does one detect server closing socket
-
- In article <Cn687F.KKo@world.std.com> lattice@world.std.com (Lattice Trading Inc.) writes:
- >From: lattice@world.std.com (Lattice Trading Inc.)
- >Subject: Re: How Does one detect server closing socket
- >Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:30:50 GMT
-
- >In article <2ml9j2$ahu@thor.cs.umass.edu>,
- >Robert Cook <cook@cs.umass.edu> wrote:
- >>I have a server that times out a connection if its been idle
- >>for more then a certain time. So I'm trying to build a client
- >>that will handle this. I thought if I tried to send data to a
- >>disconnected socket that send() would return SOCKET_ERROR, but
- >>that's not happening. Noting that the Winsock specs for send()
- >>states, "Note that the successful completion of a send() does
- >>not indicate that the data was successfully delivered.", I
- >>tried setting TCP_NODELAY on the socket and that
- >>didn't work. I tried using select and that didn't work. The only
- >>time I know that the socket is disconnected is when I use the recv()
- >>command. I could probably write a function that would ping the
- >>connection
- >>and the recv() would return SOCKET_ERROR, but that means I would first
- >>ping the connection everytime I wanted to send data. That seems pretty
- >>inefficent.
- >>
- >>So how do other people do it? How can the client detect that
- >>the server has closed the connection?
- >>
-
- >I went through this on both the Unix (server) side and the PC (client)
- >side. I have a solution that works, but I'm not sure that it is the
- >best one. I'm interested in hearing any criticism:
-
- >1) Set the SO_KEEPALIVE socket level option. This will send an empty
- > message every 45 seconds (BSD) and expect a response within 6
- > minutes (BSD). If it times out the next operation on the socket
- > should fail.
-
- Yes, SO_KEEPALIVE socket level option works fine. We are using it
- successfully on a DOS Client and UNIX Servers and DOS Servers. The moment
- connection is closed the servers are getting notified correctly and the
- system behaves fine. I donot really know how often this option keeps
- sending hard-beats saying the connection is still valid. We have used this
- in both blocking sockets and Async socket calls, and tried with couple of
- TCP/IP stacks. It works just fine.
-
- Prasad J.V.G,
- Sriven Computer Solutions Pvt. Ltd.,
- Hyderabad,
- I N D I A. e-mail : jvg@sriven.scs.co.in
- jvg@bmdinc.com
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Mon Mar 28 03:58:22 1994
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- To: winsock@sunsite.unc.edu
- Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 03:58:22 GMT
- From: esullivan@linux.pcweek.ziff.com
- Message-Id: <ESULLIVAN.94Mar27225822@linux.pcweek.ziff.com>
- Organization: PC Week Labs
- Sender: ses
- References: <joel.2.000B5BD7@jhammond>, <2mpv8b$8f3@dawn.mmm.com>, <slawek.764475692@aries>
- Subject: Re: New Microsoft TCP/IP beta available
-
- >>>>> "Jari" == Jari M I Salminen <jaris@vipunen.hut.fi> writes:
-
- Jari> In article <2n1egs$c6h@kruuna.Helsinki.FI>
- Jari> kulokari@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Hannu Kulokari) writes:
- >> Except that I cannot get it to run on top of ODI/NDIS3.
-
- Jari> Here's how I got MS TCP/32 to work with WFW 3.11, ODI/NDIS3
- Jari> and Intel EtherExpress 16:
-
- Jari> The MS TCP/32 installation inserted line "Binding=ms$ee16"
- Jari> into [ms$ee160] section in SYSTEM.INI. However, since I use
- Jari> ODI, the [ms$ee16] section in PROTOCOL.INI is empty and MS
- Jari> TCP/32 could not work.
-
- Jari> I noticed that some other sections in PROTOCOL.INI (such as
- Jari> [NETBEUI] and [NWLINK]) had a line "BINDINGS=EXP16ODI", so I
- Jari> tried that for the SYSTEM.INI setting. And with line
- Jari> "Binding=EXP16ODI" in SYSTEM.INI MS TCP/32 works (haven't
- Jari> tested that much but the ftp seems to be operational).
-
- Jari> Note also that there is also a section [MSTCP32] in
- Jari> PROTOCOL.INI which has a line "BINDINGS=EXP16ODI". I'm not
- Jari> sure if I changed that or was it the MS TCP/32 installation
- Jari> program, but I guess it must be there...
-
- This is exactly how I got ODI/NDIS3 to work, if anyone else is having
- this trouble. You don't need to change PROTOCOL.INI, just SYSTEM.INI
- as described above. Must be a bug.
-
- --
- ---------------------------------------------------------
- Eamonn Sullivan | esullivan@pcweek.ziff.com
- PC Week Labs | phone: 617-393-3841
- ---------------------------------------------------------
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Sun Mar 27 13:02:09 1994
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- To: winsock@sunsite.unc.edu
- Date: 27 Mar 1994 21:02:09 -0800
- From: karman@saturn.wwc.edu (Andrew Karmy)
- Message-Id: <2n5och$d3e@saturn.wwc.edu>
- Organization: Walla Walla College, College Place, WA
- Sender: ses
- References: <slawek.764475692@aries>, <1994Mar25.022530.25335@alw.nih.gov>, <ESULLIVAN.94Mar26015829@linux.pcweek.ziff.com>
- Subject: Re: Microsoft TCP/IP beta + IPX/SPX in W4WG 3.11
-
- In article <ESULLIVAN.94Mar26015829@linux.pcweek.ziff.com>,
- <esullivan@linux.pcweek.ziff.com> wrote:
- >>>>>> "jones" == jones <jones@cbdb1.nimh.nih.gov> writes:
- >
- > jones> In article <slawek.764475692@aries>,
- > jones> <slawek@aries.scs.uiuc.edu> writes:
- > >> -------------------------------------
- > >>
- > >> DNS for Internet names works just fine but is rather slow.
- > >>
- > >> Slawek Janicki slawek@m.scs.uiuc.edu
- > >>
- > jones> I'm glad you cleared up the DNS confusion had logged on to
- > jones> do that myself. Since I'm here I might as well pass on my
- > jones> experience with the VxD TCP/IP beta from Microsoft. I think
- > jones> its awesome! I'd been trying to figure out how the install
- > jones> both a winsock and the "IPX/SPX Compatible ,,," in W4WG,
- > jones> and neither Trumpet Winsock nor Chameleon would work on my
- > jones> machines. In fact that configuration crashed all network
- > jones> communications. The MS VxD winsock works great in this
- > jones> configuration. I found it very easy to install since it
- >
- >I'm still having lots of problems getting Netware, WFW311, and the
- >beta TCP/IP to work together. Maybe you can help.
- >
- >It seems to be the same problem I was
- >having getting Chameleon and SuperTCP to work with Netware and WFW311
- >when I first reviewed the product. I'm not sure what I could be doing
- >wrong. I installed WFW311 on a clean system with ODI drivers (ne2000)
- >already installed for Netware. After install, I'm able to work with
- >Netware and WFW/NT without any problems. I then installed the TCP/IP
- >beta, which installs without complaint. However, when I boot again,
- >the TCP/IP doesn't work (ping always reports "Host unreachable", for
- >example). When I install WFW311 on a system not connected to NetWare,
- >and then install TCP/IP, everything works great.
- >
- >Can you or anyone else see what I'm missing?
- >--
- >---------------------------------------------------------
- >Eamonn Sullivan | esullivan@pcweek.ziff.com
- >PC Week Labs | phone: 617-393-3841
- >---------------------------------------------------------
-
- I am having the same problem to a tee.
-
- I just read another posting that indicated that there is a problem with
- the method that the install program writes the bindings line in the protocol
- .ini file. you simply need to change it to be the name of your mlid from
- the odi setup stuff. If you need more info let me know and I'll email the
- post to you.
-
- - Andy Karmy
- karman@wwc.edu
- --
-
- Andy Karmy karman@wwc.edu
- Network Manager (509) 527-2064
- Walla Walla College
- From jha@cci.dk Mon Mar 28 09:55:30 1994
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- id AA05177; Mon, 28 Mar 94 07:55:30 +0200
- Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 07:55:30 +0200
- From: jha@cci.dk (Jon Hammerskov)
- Message-Id: <9403280555.AA05177@jha.>
- To: winsock@sunsite.unc.edu
- Subject: NT-NFS
- X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII
- Content-Length: 48
- X-Charset: ASCII
- X-Char-Esc: 29
-
- Does anyone know of a NFS implemetation for NT?
- From KPT@jsp.fi Mon Mar 28 02:18:17 1994
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- To: winsock@sunsite.unc.edu
- From: Kari-Pekka Turtiainen <KPT@jsp.fi>
- Organization: Jyvaskyla Science Park
- Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:17:18 EET-2
- Subject: Re: Looking for WSARCHIE
- X-Pmrqc: 1
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-
- > In article <mrm.3.00085A45@epavax.rtpnc.epa.gov>, mrm@epavax.rtpnc.epa.gov
- (Marc J. Mass) says:
- > >
- > >I've been looking for a copy of WSARCHIE to download by FTP but haven't
- found
- > >one. The one listed for monu6.cc.monash.edu.au in /pub/win3/uploads
- transfers
- > >as a file with only 3K in it. Anyone have a site (verified) I can get it
- from?
- > >
- > >Respond to MRM@epavax.rtpnc.epa.gov
- > >
- > >
- >
-
- Product: WsArchie
- Author: David Woakes (FW,david@maxwell.demon.co.uk)
- Host: ftp.demon.co.uk
- Dir: pub/ibmpc/winsock
- Best Regards Kari
- =====================
- Kari-Pekka Turtiainen
- R&D Manager
- OF-Open Forms Inc.,
- Ylistonmaentie 31
- FIN-40500 Jyvaskyla, FINLAND
- Everybody is interesting for an hour, but few people can last more than two.
- - V. S. Naipul, interview in Time,10 July 1989
-
-